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SIG CT is different: Only group in ISTE that speaks to **learning** **about** computers. Members must work together to have our voices heard to help the future of our kids and for IT.

Panel discussion: There are fewer students interested in computer science, a "falling intake". The problem starts before university; students are turned off to what they think is CS. Students should be encouraged in computers beginning at the elementary grade levels.

Chris used the expression, “The best of times and the worst of times.” Students are bored by what the think is computer science. Computer teachers must stop language wars and concentrate on the process of teaching about computers.

How to we teach programming? For its own sake, or as a problem solving tool? What about teaching IT v. teaching programming? In many (all?) states the curriculum is being established by vocational programs, or by other interests that do not always support computer use at an early age. Many pre-college teachers are also IT support people. Students should be encouraged to find internships (this was repeated a number of times). Beyond the AP program, there are many certification programs (A+, for example). Mobile learning is another aspect of attracting student interest.

ACM model curriculum calls for an early understanding by students for the use of a computer as a tool. Solving real-world problems rather than just creating a document of a spreadsheet. Again, many students do not understand what computer use and programming is all about.

The renaming of the SIG is a good idea. Perhaps reps from K-5 and middle school levels would be a good idea. Perhaps there should be a K-5 rep and a middle school level rep as well. How about a political action committee? Chris: Christy Goldman is a good person to contact; ISTE is going a number of good things in dealing with the states.

Spreadsheets are not computer science. The idea of private and public education was discussed; private schools can sometimes react to changes more quickly. Computers cover a large area of applications. Rather than focusing on the technical, can we also work with art and English teachers to draw them into embracing technology?

Alfred Thompson's notes are at http://blogs.msdn.com/alfredth/archive/2007/06/25/the-first-thing-is-to-get-them-interested.aspx